17 Winters Podcast

Episode #36: Dr. Yusef Bunchy Shakur and Tony Gant "The Landscape of Criminal Legal Work 2026

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Dr. Yusef Bunchy Shakur and Tony Gant for a necessary, honest conversation about the past, present, and future of criminal legal reform. We reflect on the changes in Michigan over the 25 years since Dr. Shakur’s release, the 10 years since Tony and I have been home, and what those timelines reveal about progress, power, and persistent gaps in the movement. From policy shifts to culture changes, we examine what’s moved the needle—and what hasn’t. This episode goes deep into: Building real power with formerly incarcerated people, The evolving (and essential) role of directly impacted leadership, Hard truths and missteps within the movement that must be addressed to move forward, What success must look like as we head toward 2026 and beyond... This is real talk, grounded in lived experience, strategy, and love for the people. Hands down, one of the best conversations I’ve had yet.  Tap in, reflect, and be part of shaping what comes next.

Episode 35: Sidney Black II "Formerly Incarcerated Impact on CVI Work (Part 2)

The conversation continues. In Part 2 of our deep dive into the role of formerly incarcerated people in Community Violence Intervention (CVI), I sit down with my co-defendant, my best friend, and one of the sharpest minds in this work—Sidney Black, Lead Neighborhood Change Agent for Advance Peace, a national leader in CVI. We get into the CVI discussion immediately. Sidney breaks down what the Advance Peace model actually looks like on the ground and what their team is doing right now in Lansing, Michigan to intervene in cycles of harm and build real pathways for transformation. We also revisit my stance from Part 1—where I said that “credible messenger” specifically means an ex-contributor—and Sidney brings his own perspective to the table. Together, we unpack why lived experience is not just valuable but fundamental to authentic CVI work. Lastly, we get into the nuances of language, especially when navigating relationships with police inside a CVI framework—what helps, what harms, and what communities need to be aware of as this field continues to grow. Another raw, honest, necessary chapter in this ongoing conversation.

Episode 34: “Formerly Incarcerated Impact on CVI Work

In this solo episode of 17 Winters, I step into the studio alone for the very first time—no guest, just me, the mic, and a lot to unpack. Fresh off the “Michigan School Based Community Violence Intervention” webinar hosted by FORCE Detroit, The Michigan Transformation Collective, and End Gun Violence Michigan, I break down some of my biggest takeaways and why I think they’ve finally carved out a functional working definition of Community Violence Intervention (CVI) that centers real experience and real impact. I also dig into the CVI work I’ve been doing myself—what I’ve built with #NewLansing, how the Hood 2 Hood movement has shaped my approach, and why these grassroots efforts matter for real community safety. I share where this work is heading, including my vision and plans for 2026, and how formerly incarcerated leadership continues to push CVI forward in ways institutions are only beginning to understand. And yes… since it’s just me this time, I definitely went on a bit of a rant. This is Part 1 of a larger, ongoing conversation, but it’s an important start. #freethereal #endmassincarceration

From Juvenile Life Sentence to Community Visionary

In this powerful episode of 17 Winters, I sit down with Demetric Walls, better known as D. Walls Can Talk, to unpack a story of transformation, redemption, and purpose. D. Walls opens up about the events that led to his incarceration as a juvenile and what it was like growing up behind bars. He shares the pivotal life-changing moment(s) that shifted his mindset and set him on a new path—one focused on growth, creativity, and giving back to his community. Today, D. Walls is the driving force behind The MOTIVE Recording Workshop and the Turkey Heaven Food Truck, turning his past into a platform for positive change. This conversation dives deep into resilience, self-discovery, and what it truly means to rebuild your life after prison.  Tune in for an inspiring discussion that proves your circumstances don’t define your destiny. #FreeTheReal #17WintersPodcast #DWallsCanTalk #Redemption #SecondChances #TheMOTIVE #TurkeyHeaven

Episode #33: “Advocacy Behind the Walls: Alisha Kohn and the Prisoners Brain Trust

In this second special FAMM Conference episode, we sit down with Alisha Kohn, a transgender activist and leader with the Prisoners Brain Trust of New York—an organization whose staff is mostly still incarcerated, including its executive director. Alisha opens up about her time inside an all-male facility as a trans woman, the daily realities and dangers of that experience, and how it shaped her commitment to justice work. We also highlight the essential role of Nathaly, the organization’s social media and communications director, whose work ensures that the stories, advocacy, and inside-led strategies of the Prisoners Brain Trust reach communities and allies across the state. Together, Alisha and Nathaly help demonstrate how a statewide advocacy organization can operate powerfully and effectively even with more than half its workforce behind the walls. Our conversation touches on reentry, identity, safety, and the ingenuity of inside-led activism—showing the deep humanity, expertise, and resilience that system-impacted people bring to the movement for change. “When you’re uncomfortable, that’s when change is happening…” —Paris

Episode #32: “From Commutation to Community: Kyle Hedquist’s Oregon Story

Recorded on the ground at the FAMM Conference’s Second Chances Working Group, this special episode features a candid conversation with Kyle Hedquist of the Oregon Justice Resource Center. After spending 28 years inside and receiving a rare Governor’s commutation, Kyle has turned his second chance into a mission for systemic change. We discuss his journey from youth incarceration to release, how he navigated the transition home, and the powerful advocacy work he’s now leading in Oregon. Kyle reflects on what it means to rebuild a life after nearly three decades and how he’s leveraging his experience to push for policy reform and community-centered justice. This is a story of resilience, responsibility, and the long arc of transformation.

Bonus Episode: “Live from the Human Library

In this special bonus episode of 17 Winters, I step off the mic and into a chair — as a Live Book in the Ingham County Human Library. Just like traditional libraries offer mystery, memoir, or poetry, this space offers living, breathing stories — told by real people who’ve walked through real chapters. At Voices of Ingham, no story is too heavy, too complex, or too raw to be heard. Each “book” is a human being. And today, I’m honored to share a chapter from my own book: the path that led me to incarceration… and what came after.  Sit.  Listen.  Understand. Whether you’re new to 17 Winters or have been with me through it all, I invite you to pull up, tune in, and step into a moment of empathy. Because in this library, judgment is left at the door — and connection is the takeaway.

Episode #30: "From the Crack Era to Real Estate Success" featuring Marcus Miller

In this powerful and deeply personal episode of 17 Winters, I sit down with Marcus Miller — a Lansing native whose journey from the streets to success is nothing short of remarkable. Marcus shares his story of growing up in Lansing during the crack era, his early involvement in the drug trade, and the painful consequences that led to him serving 12 years in prison. Now a respected real estate agent at a prestigious firm, Marcus opens up about the lessons he learned, the hardships he endured, and the mindset shift that helped him rebuild his life. One of the most moving parts of this conversation is when Marcus opens his "Book of Life" — a notebook filled with journal entries he wrote while incarcerated. We read one of those raw and reflective passages on air. This is more than a story of redemption — it’s a testament to resilience, growth, and the power of owning your narrative. 🎧 Don’t miss this unforgettable episode. 📖 Real stories. Real lessons. Real Lansing.

Episode #29: “Committed to the Change” featuring Brother David X (Bates)

In Episode 29 of 17 Winters, Brother Mike X sits down with Brother David X (Bates), a formerly incarcerated man who returned home in 1999 and has since lived a life rooted in purpose, faith, and transformation. A dedicated member of the Nation of Islam, Brother David shares his powerful story of transitioning back into society, building a professional life grounded in discipline and service, and staying committed to his growth. We reflect on our early connection and interactions before prison, how those moments shaped our perspectives, and how his unwavering commitment to change opened doors for both personal and professional development. This episode is a deep and honest conversation between two brothers who understand the cost of the past and the value of redemption. Stay tuned—this is just part one. Brother David X will return soon for a deeper dive into his work, wisdom, and walk. Don’t miss it.

Collaboration, Creation & the City’s Creative Future

Welcome back to Part 2 of New Lansing: Collaboration, Culture & the Meaning of "New Lansing" — a series exploring the heart of Lansing’s creative evolution. In this segment, I sit down with the team at Crack House Studios, Lansing’s premier hub for music and content creation. We dive into what New Lansing means to them, how their studio became a cornerstone for local artists, and what the future holds for the city’s music and entertainment landscape. 🎙️ Topics we cover: The power of collaboration in Lansing’s music scene Recording, producing, and building a creative space that brings people together What it takes to move the culture forward in mid-Michigan Visions for a more unified and vibrant New Lansing 🔗 Learn more about Crack House Studios: https://www.crackhousestudios.com If you're passionate about local music, storytelling, and the next generation of Lansing culture, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss. 👇 Drop a comment below with your thoughts on New Lansing and where you see the scene going.

New Lansing Pt. 1: Collaboration, Culture & the Meaning of "New Lansing" — 517 Day Vibes

In this special video, we dive deep into the heart of Lansing’s music and entertainment scene — exploring how local artists, creatives, and collectives are shaping a new cultural identity for the city. In the spirit of 517 Day, we’re talking unity, growth, and what it means to represent New Lansing. 🎤 Featuring powerful conversations with: Ball Forever Jay, NoSleep Milli, All Or Nothin Ent.; Tzy Osama & Stay True Red From collaboration across neighborhoods to building a movement beyond music, this video is about more than just the beats — it’s about bridging gaps, elevating voices, and bringing Lansing together as one. 💬 What does New Lansing mean to you? How do we unite the city? Drop your thoughts in the comments and be part of the conversation. 🔔 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe to stay tapped into Lansing’s rising creative wave. This video was filmed at The Fledge Lansing; 1300 Eureka St., Lansing, MI 48912, and brought to you by Fortuo Premium Cannabis, 4924 S. Martin Luther King Blvd., Lansing, MI 48911!

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